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« on: November 20, 2008, 06:26:42 AM »

Did anyone else see this sad excuse for a movie Quantum of Solace. 

I declare it to be the biggest piece of Sh*t I have seen since HULK (the one that came out in 2003 the recent one was awesome)
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« Reply #1 on: November 20, 2008, 10:12:25 AM »

Everyone that I know that has seen it has loved it.  I haven't seen it yet, but possibly will tonight.
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« Reply #2 on: November 20, 2008, 03:21:59 PM »

Hah. As bad as The Bourne Ultimatum?

Drum beat, shoot and duck, run, fight scene, more run, for at least 20 minutes.. argh. Horrible.
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« Reply #3 on: November 20, 2008, 10:35:50 PM »

Haven't seen it. Heard some bad reviews.

It's funny you should mention Bourne, DC, because the revamped Bond seems to have taken a lot of cues from the Bourne trilogy. (I still haven't seen Ultimatum. Identity was the best.)
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« Reply #4 on: November 21, 2008, 07:35:25 AM »

Saw it last night - it was a pretty good film.  I can't say that I love it as much as all of the writers I read at aintitcool.com that gave it these glowing reviews and all, but still enjoyed it a lot.

And the people behind the new Bond movies have said several times that they were going to use the Bourne movies for inspiration, so I think the similarities are intentional.  Which is good to me - I like all the Bourne movies, including Ultimatum.
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« Reply #5 on: November 21, 2008, 12:26:21 PM »

I just felt the movie was so disjointed.  It felt like the story came second to the action.  So there was minimal plot maximum action.  and the action was all horrible.  I guess I just miss the days of Goldfinger when Bond was intelligent and was the epitome of class.  He was always calm collected and perfect.

To be honest I saw this movie for free at my local theatre and I felt that I deserved money back.
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« Reply #6 on: November 21, 2008, 04:49:03 PM »

That's the thing for me - the old Bond movies just seem so unrealistic to me.  No one can go through what Bond did back then and handle it so perfectly.  I can almost buy a highly trained agent being able to stay calm and collected, but that is still a stretch.  But to never get a scratch or ever make a wrong move?  Just made it hard for me to suspend my disbelief.

I kind of felt like the plot in Quantum was so complex that it was hard to follow at points.  My wife kept asking me to clarify some points during the movie.  Maybe I just tried to over think it.  But I can't think of the any of the Bond movies that were ever really that heavy on plot.  I did like the action - that was one thing I thought they did great on.

I used to love the old Bond movies, but I just can't watch them anymore because they just seem so cartoon-y.  But that is just me, and probably why I like the newer Bond.  If you like the older Bond, you probably won't like the newer Bond.  Well, the most recent Bond, that is.  Even the last one with Brosnon was just silly in some places to me.  An invisible car that can also climb walls?  Come on....
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« Reply #7 on: November 21, 2008, 10:05:22 PM »

That's the thing for me - the old Bond movies just seem so unrealistic to me.  No one can go through what Bond did back then and handle it so perfectly. 
Undecided And all these action movies today are more realistic?
They just have better make up on, and the cameras have a higher zoom, contrast, and color, as well as better camera angles.

I haven't seen this new 007 movie, but again referring back to Bourne Ultimaty - He runs for an hour and doesn't get out of breath, jumps over buildings while guys chase him with guns, then he fights them as if he's got all the energy in the world - and so do they. Eh, I seriously start to fall asleep during these parts. I'm not much of a Bond fan, but I find the older style of movies more entertaining as you can actually see the actors out out their parts, not have 1 second cut scenes from different "pretty" angles.

Just saying - hollywood use to pitch crazy ideas and catch them on camera, now they just use zoomed-in camera angles to show what they want, not the actual world that the characters are supposed to be acting in.
That's what I have against today's films, especially action films.
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« Reply #8 on: November 21, 2008, 10:39:09 PM »

Action heroes are Made Of Iron in general. But some are certainly less realistic than others.

And I agree with your frustration at over-editing of action scenes.
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« Reply #9 on: November 22, 2008, 09:53:06 AM »

More realistic? yes.  Totally realistic? No Smiley More realistic in the sense that when the star gets punched and beat up, they actually bleed and get bruised.  Some of the old Bond movies he would go through crazy fight scenes and never get a scratch on him.  I do remember in the Bourne movies that he did get sweaty, did start breathing hard, etc - stuff you just didn't always see in the old movies - especially some Bond films (not all, some).  That's just the way it seems to me.

I'm not sure I know what you mean by not seeing the world that the actors are acting in.  I didn't see the first Bourne in the theater, but I read some reviews of it where they were talking about how they filmed the scenes on every day streets that hadn't been blocked off, and had to move on sometimes just because people started catching on that they were filming, because they wanted viewers to feel like they were really in Bourne's world, not in a controlled set with extras.  That's why I decided to go rent it.  I think it was in Ultimatum that they went to Morocco, and I had been to Morrocco, so I spent a lot of time watching the world they were in to see how real it looked, and it looked pretty real to me.  James Bond spends so much time in space stations and underwater hideouts and ice castles and so many fantasy places that I just can't see as realistic.  I love Science Fiction, so I really don't care if some film is realistic or not to be honest, I just feel the new direction of films is more realistic to me.

More realistic, but not perfect.  I do wish they would quit shaking the cameras so much - during action scenes and non-action scenes alike.  The Transformers movie is an example of a movie where you just couldn't tell what was happening in so many fight scenes because of it.  And in the Bourne movies, I don't know why they have to show some person talking and the camera has to sway way to the right and then back again over and over again just while they are talking.  That was too much for me.
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« Reply #10 on: November 22, 2008, 08:46:16 PM »

More realistic in the sense that when the star gets punched and beat up, they actually bleed and get bruised. 
It's all just makeup.. Tongue
But that is true.

I meant that today's cameras focus in on parts to point every second out. The older kind of movies are focused out to show more surroundings. Because of this, you actually get to see the actor acting out their character, instead of just seeing face shots and all. Action movies seem to do this a lot, even though action should be more about surroundings and acting around them.

It bores me to see 1 guy take out more than 3 others, and still have energy left for the rest of the movie. Tongue
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